Lou and Joel discuss the pacing problems of The Witcher and 3BELOW Season 2, while looking ahead to Wizards, Tales of Arcadia. Lou takes a trip back in time with The Alienist and Joel shares fun Mandalorian fan art.
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- All of Fabric 3 (CurseForge)
- The Spawn Chunks 105: The Fabric of Modded Minecraft (Website)
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- Stardew Valley (Website )
- Darkest Dungeon (Website)
Listener Email
FROM: Obheron
SUBJECT: The Witcher Timeline
Hi Joel and Megan,
I just finished listening to Episode 372 and had some comments on your Witcher discussion near the end of the podcast.
My wife and I also found the plot/story a bit confusing. I was really thrown off a bit when halfway through the season i was asking myself, “Wasn’t that person killed last episode?”. I decided to do some digging.
Turns out the story/plot/arc of season 1 is all about getting Geralt to Cirri, but through flashbacks that build on who Geralt (and what a witcher) is. Every scene with Cirri is the present, while any other scenes with Geralt and/or Yennefer are flashbacks attempting to cover about 3-4 decades of backstory. Once I knew this and could orient myself to a timeline, the rest of the season was much more enjoyable.
I also started reading the books (there are 8 in total). The first 2 are a collection of short stories detailing various adventures of Geralt and are not in any structured timeline that I can make out. At least 6 of the 8 episodes on Netflix are made from these short stories, further explaining the fragmented feeling of the first season. The last 5 books are the Witcher story proper and the last book written (read as the 3rd book between the short stories and the last 5), is meant to be a bridge between the two.
Maybe some of these points will help gain a better appreciation on that second watch through!
And with 6 more books of original source material, there’s still plenty to pull from for future seasons!
Loving The Citadel Cafe and The Spawn Chunks, keep up the good work.
Obheron
What We’re Watching
- 3BELOW, Season 2 (Netflix)
- 3BELOW (wiki)
- Wizards, Season 1 (Netflix)
- Wizards, Tales of Arcadia (wiki)
- The Alienist (wiki)
- Harley Quinn (wiki)
Internet Minute
- The Mariolorian by Mauricio Abril (Artstation.com)
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